All times are UTC-06:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:15 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 8:46 pm
Posts: 559
Location: Paris
this kind of riser won't work as explained by Neko in another thread.


Top
   
 Post subject: Riser
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:30 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:45 am
Posts: 28
Location: Czech Republic
Quote:
this kind of riser won't work as explained by Neko in another thread.
Ok, maybe I didn't understand him very well.

Does exist any riser at all in this time ? Simple question, simple answer.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 4
Yes thier exist PCI riser cards that will work with EFIKA. However, you need a 3.3V one with an onboard PCI-to-PCI bridge chip on it.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:15 pm
Posts: 6
Is there is any flexible PCI to PCI Bridge Riser Card? Can you please post a link. A flexible PCI Riser will looks like this.

http://www2.multithread.co.uk/images/a_ ... _large.jpg

I have one of these and Efika did not boot with that.

Can someone please advice which flexible PCI riser to buy and the link please?


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:39 am
Posts: 429
Location: Secure Networks / Sweden
gbpnkans:
That riser doesn't look 3.3V to me. I think you mounted it
backwards in your EFIKA. Be happy you didn't fry your EFIKA.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:04 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:15 pm
Posts: 6
ironfist, i gave that only as a example. I just need a flexi (the one with a ribbon, so that I can flexibly position the card to fit wherever i like) riser card for 3.3v. I searched over google, did not get one except a active dual active pci riser. Can someone please help me on this.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:51 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:39 am
Posts: 429
Location: Secure Networks / Sweden
Image

Look at the PCI-connector on this card. You need a
riser that has a connector looking exactly like that.

Make sure you plug in the riser in the correct direction!


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:59 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:39 am
Posts: 1589
Location: Austin, TX
Quote:
Image

Look at the PCI-connector on this card. You need a
riser that has a connector looking exactly like that.

Make sure you plug in the riser in the correct direction!
Well, what you would prefer is one which is 3.3V keyed as then it will be impossible to plug in a 5V card by accident on the other side, and incredibly intuitive as to which way it fits into the Efika PCI slot (there is only one way)

PCI cards (and risers) have two sides - A side and B side. 'A' side is the one on the back of the board (for instance the side facing the CPU on a graphics card) and a B side is the normal component side (where nearly every PCI card has it's major electronics).

What you need is a 3.3V riser with the slot on the 'A' side to hang over the board, and 'B' side to hang away from the board. If it is flexible it at least needs to be notably 3.3V compatible, and if you hold it straight, hopefully the datasheet for the riser will tell you which way around it is meant to go.

The PCI keying is there for a reason - do NOT think that because it fits in backwards that this is correct. 99.99% of PCI devices will destroy the PCI card or Efika if they are connected backwards. We have already had users insist they know what they are doing, and plug in a graphics card backwards because "it fits".

Please ONLY use risers which are dictated as 3.3V compatible. Make sure the back of the card (where the VGA connector or ethernet connector would be) is at the BACK of the Efika board. There is no other correct way to fit it. If the card or riser does not fit that way it is NOT compatible. Bridging a 3.3V connector on the Efika to a 5V connector on the riser is NOT compatible without active components.

I updated the Gentoo Efika wiki with some PCI risers which should work; however I have not gotten hold of any personally to test their compatibility, the datasheets for them are very concise about it and there are several part numbers determining which exact riser configuration is required;

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Efika#PCI_Riser_cards

_________________
Matt Sealey


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:40 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:26 am
Posts: 3
Location: 19 Avenue de la Cadole 34540 Balaruc les Bains
Hi, I think that I've found 3 other pci riser cards which should work on the efika : Could you please tell me if I'm wrong ?


Top
   
 Post subject: Thanks Neko and Ironfist
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:48 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:15 pm
Posts: 6
Thanks for the photo and suggestion. The one which you suggested got worked. It is good to experiment and with only efika, I understood the various types of risers and problems associated with it. Many Thanks.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:20 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:39 am
Posts: 1589
Location: Austin, TX
Quote:
Hi, I think that I've found 3 other pci riser cards which should work on the efika : Could you please tell me if I'm wrong ?
Wrong, maybe and PERHAPS respectively.

The RC2-019 is not 3.3V compatible.

P4TX21-2 may only work for ONE slot. The big red note on that page explains why.

The EBK adapter the same reason.

All of them will hang cards away from the motherboard too, if they work at all.

_________________
Matt Sealey


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:38 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:19 am
Posts: 271
Location: Italy/Greece
this one (tmc-uk) seems to be really interesting:

2U 32-bit 3.3V Signaling Active PCI Riser
Image




greetz,

_________________
acrux _at_ linuxmail _dot_ org


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:21 pm
Posts: 42
@Nico:

I already tried contacting them, but it seems they do not longer support or build this riser.


Top
   
 Post subject: @ Ami603
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:56 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:19 am
Posts: 271
Location: Italy/Greece
oh, bad news...

and what's about this one?:
http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=8#p1906

_________________
acrux _at_ linuxmail _dot_ org


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:57 pm
Posts: 38
Location: Austin, TX, USA
PLX is a maker of lots of various bridges. They have eval boards that are very expensive (just like all eval boards), but if you're desperate they might still be worth it...

http://plxtech.com/products/fastlane/pc ... p#devtools

http://www.semiconductorstore.com/pages ... er=6140RDK

Unfortunately it's not documented just how the RDK is configured, i.e. how many secondary ports there are on the board.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 31 posts ] 

All times are UTC-06:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
PowerDeveloper.org: Copyright © 2004-2012, Genesi USA, Inc. The Power Architecture and Power.org wordmarks and the Power and Power.org logos and related marks are trademarks and service marks licensed by Power.org.
All other names and trademarks used are property of their respective owners. Privacy Policy
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group