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 Post subject: EFIKA + 2xIDE device
PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:18 am 
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Does anyone know how to connect IDE hard drive disk and IDE cd-rom to
EFIKA ?
Does exist a special cable ? Does anybody know how to make it ?

Thank you, Syner.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:14 pm 
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AFAIK it's not possible to connect anything special
to the onboard IDE controller. The IDE controller in
the CPU has limitations in length and that's why bPlan
decided to let you plug the HDD directly into the
connector. A normal 2.5" cable would put the HDD too
far away from the controller.


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 Post subject: 2xIDE device
PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:59 am 
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I want to connect harddrive and cdrom in paralel as usually to and IDE controller.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:07 am 
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you'd better forget this idea.
why do you need a cdrom drive ?


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 Post subject: 2xIDE device
PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:13 am 
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e.g. if you want to use EFIKA as a harddrive video recorder for TV or if you want to make a DVD EFIKA player or if you want to make an EFIKA multimedia center, or if you want to make an EFIKA as an car computer and dvd player.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:17 am 
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The Efika won't allow you to play a DVD anyway, not fast enough unless we get some decent graphics drivers with mpeg2 hardware decoding, which is not the case for now.


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 Post subject: Re: 2xIDE device
PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:36 am 
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Quote:
I want to connect harddrive and cdrom in paralel as usually to and IDE controller.
Yes, but the EFIKA has no "normal" IDE controller. :P

If you need CD/DVD, USB 1.1 is your only choice, since
I guess you occupy your PCI-port with a video card.

Unless someone makes a magic PCI card with video and
IDE/SATA, the EFIKA can't be any complete HTPC solution.
You can use it to play streamed video over the network,
but don't expect it to be a DVD-player.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:25 pm 
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The Efika won't allow you to play a DVD anyway, not fast enough unless we get some decent graphics drivers with mpeg2 hardware decoding, which is not the case for now.
Yes it will. Just not under GNOME :)

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:02 pm 
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Yes it will. Just not under GNOME :)
sure :)


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 Post subject: 2xIDE device :-)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:21 am 
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You still didn't satisfy me. Is it really true that EFIKA can't run 2 IDE devices on a special 2.5" cable ?

I read about IDE controller here in MPC5200B data sheet:

http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/do ... df?fsrch=1

But I really don't understand that cycles and stuff.
Controller is software programmable.

Is it theoretically possible to have 2 IDE devices on EFIKA ? Is it because of MPC5200B processor ? Is MPC5200B capable to run it ?

Thank you very much, Marek


:)


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 Post subject: Linux
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:47 am 
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Yes it will. Just not under GNOME :)
sure :)
XFCE4 runs smooth.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54643129@N00/323735307/

Marek.[/img]


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 Post subject: 2 IDE devices
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:15 pm 
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Show me any touchable proof, that MPC5200B ATA controller isn't capable to manage 2 ide devices together.

I found only one proof, that MPC5200B could manage 2 devices: it is in MPC5200B manual on the 391st page.
There is a diagram about cable specification of Drive 0 and Drive 1. The cable could be 0.46m of max. length.

In this table: "Table11-40. Reset Timing Characteristics" there is shown Drive 0 and Drive 1 timing.

Marek :D


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:43 pm 
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who need to prove anything ?
you're asking questions and we're providing you with the informations we have. If you got better informations than we do then why do you open multiple threads to ask things that were discussed already in other threads, especially when you seem to know better than most of us do ? :-)
Please add your comments and informations on the dedicated threads, that will be valuable for eveyone. You seem to be documented, share it !


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In theory, you could use an IDE hard disk and CD-ROM drive with the EFIKA if you use a buffered IDE interface, though I haven't actually tried it yet.

Or you could just use an IDE to USB adaptor.


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 Post subject: EFIKA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:59 am 
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who need to prove anything ?
you're asking questions and we're providing you with the informations we have. If you got better informations than we do then why do you open multiple threads to ask things that were discussed already in other threads, especially when you seem to know better than most of us do ? :-)
Please add your comments and informations on the dedicated threads, that will be valuable for eveyone. You seem to be documented, share it !
We need to prove something and let everybody know if something runs or not.
Could you please post me where is the right thread for EFIKA ATA controller ?


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