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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:29 am 
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I have a nex Disk 80GIG now i would like to have my Moprhos Parition my
Linux parition and also my HFS for Os-X on this disk.....

cause OS-X 10.3 needs to be installed on the first 8 GIG i wonder how to
parition the Disk....
is it possible to use only one Disk and howto =parition with mac-fdisk or parted...
parted can not make -hfs so ?

thanx Maurix


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:37 am 
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ALWAYS partition using GNU parted. No other disk tool will give
you a satisfactory partitioning scheme.

One way to do it would be to basically partition your disk so that
you have;


boot (ext2 or ffs or sfs)
linux swap
---- 7GB or so for MacOS ---
linux
linux :)
linux :D
morphos
freebsd
netbsd

OpenFirmware has no restrictions on the number of partitions if
you partition as RDB - only that it has to boot from a supported
filesystem which is basically Linux ext2, Amiga FFS or SFS, Microsoft
FAT32, and CDROM (ISO9660).

There are GUI tools you can use to partition (QParted, GParted) and
also move partitions around, but I consider them to be a little
unsafe and none of them really work with Amiga filesystems, so be
careful if you treasure MorphOS :)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: maurix [mailto:info@vestiti.de]
> Sent: 22 February 2005 07:30
> To: ppczone-users@forums.ppczone.org
> Subject: Help on Parition one Disk for all
>
> I have a nex Disk 80GIG now i would like to have my Moprhos
> Parition my Linux parition and also my HFS for Os-X on this disk.....
>
> cause OS-X 10.3 needs to be installed on the first 8 GIG i
> wonder how to parition the Disk....
> is it possible to use only one Disk and howto =parition with
> mac-fdisk or parted...
> parted can not make -hfs so ?
>
> thanx Maurix
> _________________________________________________________
> PPCZone Forums: http://www.ppczone.org/forums
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:56 am 
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 07:29:32AM +0000, maurix wrote:
> I have a nex Disk 80GIG now i would like to have my Moprhos Parition my
> Linux parition and also my HFS for Os-X on this disk.....
>
> cause OS-X 10.3 needs to be installed on the first 8 GIG i wonder how to
> parition the Disk....
> is it possible to use only one Disk and howto =parition with mac-fdisk or parted...
> parted can not make -hfs so ?

Notice that MOL/OSx really likes to takeover a full disk.

Apart from that, there is no limitation OF or linux wise on how you can
partition your disk.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:34 am 
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Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
This is my partition map:
Code:
Minor Start End Filesystem Name
1 4.793 67.108 affs1 BI0
2 67.108 15003.520 ext3 DH0
3 15003.521 30074.149 asfs DH3
4 30074.149 78138.143 xfs DH1
5 78138.143 78531.206 linux-swap DH2
I use partition 2 for MacOS. But right now I have a Linux install for diskless booting of my ODW, which is why it says ext3.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:46 am 
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ok that sounds good to me,,but how do i set the second parition to HFS_Apple if i do
a bootstrap in mac-fdisk --i ..i will cancel my disk info ...or should i install OS-X into an#
Image ?

sorry since now i always used 2 disks ----



thanx ;Maurix


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:07 pm 
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MacOnLinux doesn't care what partitioning format you use or
what the partition type is. It gets the device from a config
file, so as long as your kernel is right you are good to go.

You can then put it in molrc.osx as blkdev: /dev/hda9 -boot
where hda9 is the appropriate number, and you can boot from
this disk. Make sure you specify -force and it will allow
it to be mounted by MOL as a Mac disk, and the MacOS X
installer will initialise the virtual disk for you.

If you want to use an ENTIRE disk (commonly called "dangerously
dedicated") then just pass /dev/hdb or whatever to it, i.e.
the entire block device.

You should REALLY have read the manual before doing this.

http://www.maconlinux.org/userguide/hfs.html

I REPEAT: Don't use mac-fdisk!

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: maurix [mailto:info@vestiti.de]
> Sent: 22 February 2005 14:47
> To: ppczone-users@forums.ppczone.org
> Subject: Re: Help on Parition one Disk for all
>
> ok that sounds good to me,,but how do i set the second
> parition to HFS_Apple if i do a bootstrap in mac-fdisk --i
> ..i will cancel my disk info ...or should i install OS-X into
> an# Image ?
>
> sorry since now i always used 2 disks ----
>
>
>
> thanx ;Maurix
> _________________________________________________________
> PPCZone Forums: http://www.ppczone.org/forums
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:07 pm 
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MacOnLinux doesn't care what partitioning format you use or what the partition type is. It gets the device from a config file, so as long as your kernel is right you are good to go.

You can then put it in molrc.osx as blkdev: /dev/hda9 -boot where hda9 is the appropriate number, and you can boot from this disk. Make sure you specify -force and it will allow it to be mounted by MOL as a Mac disk, and the MacOS X installer will initialise the virtual disk for you.

If you want to use an ENTIRE disk (commonly called "dangerously
dedicated") then just pass /dev/hdb or whatever to it, i.e.
the entire block device.

You should REALLY have read the manual before doing this.

http://www.maconlinux.org/userguide/hfs.html

I REPEAT: Don't use mac-fdisk!

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Matt Sealey <matt@genesi.co.uk>
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:17 pm 
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thanx with ..force option i have installed os-x on /dev/hda2

it works :-))


at this point a question:?

is Mol still developed ?? since 1 year now no update :-(

Maurix


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:36 pm 
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Yes it's still developed. The releases are made when there is a release to make; sometimes more than a year apart.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:09 pm 
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So if i put my Peg into 3 Slim CD-Case its like a mini mac :-)) hohoho

Maurix :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:21 am 
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so i did a nice parted on my new disk and i
did a dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb4 to copy ma entire parition
Yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:-((((((( all is broken my old parition an my new one

arggggggggggggg..............i have to install now new from scratch ,.,,,,,,,,

how could this happen ??
i wonder why Pegasos have problems on big Files....

:-( Maurix


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:46 am 
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 06:21:27AM +0000, maurix wrote:
> so i did a nice parted on my new disk and i
> did a dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb4 to copy ma entire parition
> Yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:-((((((( all is broken my old parition an my new one

Well, and what is your partition table ? And i suppose you have never heard
about partimage, right ?

> arggggggggggggg..............i have to install now new from scratch ,.,,,,,,,,
>
> how could this happen ??
> i wonder why Pegasos have problems on big Files....

Well, i don't think there is any such problem. At least not upto 4.5 or 8.5 GB
images.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:57 pm 
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Well...i dont even want to start guessing what happened there :)

dd shouldn't break anything unless you swap of= and if= arguments.

And just as a side note when you give a linux partition to MOL/MacOSX it sees that as a whole harddrive. ie. give it 20GB partition and Mac then has 20GB HD.

MacOS will not install itself on that unless you partition that drive so that the first boot partition is less than 8 gigs and the other partitions can be as big as you like as in this example 12 gigs.

Though i think OSX 10.1.x was able to use boot partition as big as it liked and that 8 gig boundary just happened to me when i was installing 10.3.x from scratch.


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