Hi !

I would like to know if people here would be interested by creating dedicated usenet newsgroups for the Pegasos & EFIKA binaries (and/or news).

This would then make possible to upload/download binaries, patches, videos and news from any client (such as hellanzb, klibido on linux of grabit on windows).
That would be cool for all the livecd, stuff & hot news.

Examples of possible usenet group names :
alt.binaries.pegasos
alt.binaries.pegasos.linux
alt.binaries.pegasos.morphos
alt.binaries.efika
comp.sys.pegasos
comp.sys.pegasos.linux
comp.sys.pegasos.morphos
comp.sys.efika

... whatever ...

Note : Creating a usenet group must be done by asking to the Big8 (http://www.big-8.org) and can be refused.

It's a poll, so please take some time for a vote ;-)

Oh, so PowerDeveloper.org isn't good enough for you now? You want everyone to get a NNTP client as WELL as a web browser in order to adequately use our products? Come on, guys, I worked really hard on this site, and you wanna move to newsgroups? Please stay here! :)

Please, we HAVE a resource for all you guys, you're looking right at it when you read this post. Forums, downloads, articles, support pages, patches, videos, news, the lot.

If you want something hosted here (a LiveCD for example) just ask for it. I don't think an unmoderated newsgroup (or having a newsgroup moderated by volunteers or staff, meaning extra work) is really worth it.

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Matt Sealey

Geoffrey, we changed the Poll. 8) It is a great idea to do all these things, but we would rather they be done here. PowerCollaboration is coming. Moving activity away from this site makes it more difficult for us to support the process of interactivity. It would be more difficult for us to support the innovation we seek to nuture when it is not here and more difficult to follow. As for you, you highly motivated long time Pegasos user and supporter, we need to get you an EFIKA so you can create something as useful and expansive as the Pegasos Book again! Maybe, then, you won't be coming up with these crazy polls! :P

R&B :)

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http://bbrv.blogspot.com

please do not introduce the Pegasos to the warez scene ;-)
That's what usually happens with newsgroups. It's too hard to manage and moderate.

IMO newsgroups idea is obsolete nowadays in general. I prefer to have all the resources and discussion in one place.

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http://krashan.ppa.pl

Exactly.

For example, the EFIKA Book is going to be developed right here in the context of the new environment we are getting set up. The form and function of all those things you mentioned Geoffrey are or will be here.

R&B :)

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http://bbrv.blogspot.com

Hi !
The idea here is absolutely not to get in competition with Powercollaboration.org which is quite promising and which I plan to use when I'll have my EFIKA.

The interest here is the upload/download rate because you use adequate newsgroup server (for example news.free.fr if your provider is the french provider Free.fr).
For example, I have a 200Kb/s to 800Kb/s download rate which is really quite good.
Maybe we could have this upload/download rate with a ftp in each country and with mirrors, because atm, I'm sorry but I don't have this download/upload rate with powercollaboration.org (I guess the website is located in the US).

The usenet could be also accessible from powercollaboration.org and the blog & other stuffs would only be on powercollaboration.org.
So, I see that as a complementary tool, but if you don't want it, it's OK for me.
It's just a poll ;-)

please take in consideration that most of french ISPs don't allow access to newsgroup, or only with a fee/subscription to a third party provider. AFAIK Free is the only one who gives this kind of access.

Easiest way not to do that is not to do anything in the first place. We can handle this, we do not need a newsgroup :)
Our server has AMPLE available dedicated bandwidth (of the order of hundreds of megabits) and we pay our total bandwidth usage costs for quantity every month (we have never, ever gone over even hosting 2.8GB LiveDVDs, and my habit of using the box as a proxy and staging ground for my Linux distro downloads and so on..)

Every time I get a fast connection I run off and do a bandwidth test to see if I can make our server sweat. Even with a 32mbit line out the outside world, I was getting extremely decent rates of 2 megabytes/s to 3 megabytes/s.

You won't have to worry about it, and the larger downloads will also only be available by BitTorrent anyway (which saves us bandwidth and helps everyone share the load worldwide). We have plans for European and perhaps Asian/Australian mirrors simply because they have a weak link to the USA.

But our server has more than enough bandwidth and the link into Asia is far, far faster, apart from a perhaps slightly sluggish page start time, the actual download speed (average rate over a 100mbyte file for example) should be to the limit of YOUR connection.
This is probably down to your ISP, and not us. PowerCollaboration is hosted on a different box to the PowerDeveloper server right now (confusing ain't it? :) so the bandwidth and speed don't tally up, but rest assured; we will host files and important, no-login-needed files and the bittorrent tracker on the faster PowerDeveloper server (along with the rest of the Genesi sites, which generate some insane amounts of page hits when Bill makes his blog runs..)

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Matt Sealey

usenet newsgroups are not a good idea imho. a mailing list would offer pretty much the same functionality, but only requires an ordinary email address at the client side and a list manager at the server side. For me the forums are fine.
Though perhaps an irc channel might be a nice idea as it allows (near) real-time interaction between developers. Then again, considering the amount of traffic on the forums here an irc channel would probably be very quiet too.

It already exists :
#ppczone on Freenode.

ha! figures :)
thanks for pointing it out to me though.

#pegasosppc is the correct name.

#pegasos.org is another good chan for general Pegasos
support and chat. Mostly Swedish.

#morphos is the MorphOS support channel. These are all
on Freenode.